Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Narconon's Dr. G, Megan Shields' letter to the editor, SF Gate Organization: Leptonic Systems Inc. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:29:11 GMT In article <40D07AEE.7C1AC0FA@privacy.net>, Howard Edmunds wrote: > Mike O'Connor wrote: > > > > > > > I continue to search for this fantastic seminal case study. So far > > nothing but a few mentions on Narconon sites. One site has a swell B/W > > photo of her with white coat and stethoscope at the ready. It is an > > excerpt from the abstract of the presentation, it says. Here it is in > > part. > > > > > pdf file posted to a.b.s > > see also http://www.detoxacademy.org/pdfs/childtox.pdf > > Howard Well, I read the paper, all eight pages of it, including three pages of introduction and two of references. It is by Shields and others, and from 1995, and says it's from the Proceedings of the American Public Health Association, but I sure hope this isn't the fantastic seminal case study, cause it's more like a lame High School science homework paper. Narconon is supposed to be based on this? It has nothing to do whatsoever with illegal drugs. They didn't look into anyone's fat but one person on one chemical, and that is suspect, see below. It didn't look at any excreted urine or perspiration. It only mentions inadvertent environmental exposure to minute quantities of contaminants Chlordane, phenylcyclohexane, Aldrin, Dieldrin, "Unknown water contaminant", "Heavy metal" and "Paints and solvents". It goes on for a few pages saying how people get exposed to these things and so on, before it starts talking about what the researchers did. They ran 18 kids with some of these chemical exposures who complained of symptoms like xxx, through the Purif. Afterward, the "Patients rated the severity of eighty-seven symptoms before and after treatment." They then claim marked improvement. In other words all they did was run 18 kids through the purif and the kids said it worked. That is the study. THAT is the scientific basis for Narconon, Ms. Shields? FRAUD. FRAUD. FRAUD. Here is one of the two case histories they report. It does claim measurable reduction of one chemical before and after the treatment: "CASE HISTORY 2 Case Two is a fourteen year old girl. Her family was stricken ill by repeated misapplications of dieldrin to their home two years previously. Her chief complaints were headaches, acne, and nausea. Due to her body size she was able to do a full protocol with addition supervision paid to diet and communication. She underwent a fat biopsy before and after detoxification. The adipose tissue was extracted and a GC scan for organochlorines was performed. Dieldrin metabolites were below detection limits; however, the DDT metabolite, DDE, was found at 2.08 ppm before detoxification, and 0.24 ppm after detoxification. Following treatment she reported significant improvements in headaches and acne." This is the only measurement of anything in the paper.It doesn't say where the fat was taken from, when the biopsies were done, or attempt to explain where or how the substance might have been excreted, or what happened to the Dieldrin the kid was supposed to have in him in the first place. Very lame. NOTHING to base ANYTHING on.. FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD. -- LYING IS A SCIENTOLOGY SACRAMENT ASK THEM ABOUT XENU Remember Lisa McPherson ================================================================ Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: Narconon's Dr. G, Megan Shields' letter to the editor, SF Gate Organization: Leptonic Systems Inc. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:39:11 GMT In article , Mike O'Connor wrote: > They ran 18 kids with some of these chemical exposures who complained of > symptoms like xxx, through the Purif. Afterward, the "Patients rated the > severity of eighty-seven symptoms before and after treatment." Sorry, symptoms included things like "environmental sensitivity", headache, and allergies. The point is, this is nothing like what Ms. Shields said. So I hope this isn't the report she was talking about. To recap, this report wasn't about drugs, didn't measure sweat or urine. But she said: "Additionally, in a seminal case study, I demonstrated, along with other researchers, that the Hubbard method successfully mobilizes drugs stored in body tissues to be excreted in sweat and urine. We presented these results to the 123rd American Public Health Association conference in 1995. Samples of sweat and urine were collected from patients addicted to cocaine, amphetamine and valium on entry into the Narconon treatment program and then every two days during treatment with the Hubbard sauna method. Using a very sensitive assay, we demonstrated low or undetectable levels following a period of abstinence that were markedly elevated during the sauna program. " -- LYING IS A SCIENTOLOGY SACRAMENT ASK THEM ABOUT XENU Remember Lisa McPherson