post-talk notes and corrections

We once again started replacing /usr/bin/lpq with a symlink to /usr/local/bin/klpq.

Evolution is another semi supported email client. (With rumors of thunderbird leaving mozilla it may become a preferred one later...)
I've not heard of any imap client that doesn't work.
The imap server does pop and some of kpop. Plain pop sends passwords in the clear which was a big motivator for .mail passwords. These days most imap clients seem to work fine with ssl. Also we support ssl/tls for smtp auth sending too.

The fzq is getting out of date and needs a maintainer.
There is also the zephyr client called owl (curses based.) And some people are using gaim/pidgin for zephyr access. (Need details on how auth access works for that.)
There is also some effort in the direction of getting a native windows zephyr client working (anyone interested?)

Getting kerberos to work on non fac hosts isn't too hard these days. While there can be some minor syntax differences in the config and cmdline clients you can basically copy over the /etc/krb5.conf from fac and get things working. Even on MacOSX.
OpenAFS is getting pretty good about dropping down and building on recent Linux. (Even works on Vista.)
It's also not too hard these days to get AFS auth for cron jobs. kinit/kauth will use a keytab file to do the auth (which is essentially like using a stored password.) You can share tickets through environment variables. Just have the cron just setenv to a ticket file maintained outside (like via krenew) and the do aklog cs.cmu.edu to get tokens. A third possibility is to have IP addresses of a trusted machine (like a desktop) added to the dir's acls.

Niftytelnet is gone. Use putty. Though jeeves still needs encrypting telnet so ssh to linux.gp and telnet from there.
RSA keys aren't as useful here (to avoid passwords) because afs needs auth. But things are much better on FC boxes because ssh2 supports ticket forwarding.

The problems with incomplete rpmdb's from rh9 days are mostly gone. Yum is far more anal about requiring dependencies be resolved. Lots of packages that don't touch system areas just be yum installed. This has cut down on a lot of the old needs for misc collections but not the need for better integrating things with the local changes.

Some things that need volunteers. fzq, updating and maintaining zarchive, getting a working zephyr client out for windows. Plus assorted misc collections probably need local active volunteers: tzc, zephyr emacs, phone, kzephyr, perhaps a smarter finger replacement, java (if people want different versions), maybe some collection of local tex packages, local perl packages?, user contributed imap tools, ps tools....