Mike Huckabee

russert __PUNCT__ governor mike_huckabe __PUNCT__ welcom back to meet the press __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ thank you veri much __PUNCT__ tim __PUNCT__

pleasur to be back __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ you drop nine point in less than a month __PUNCT__

what happen __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ i think the poll ar all over the place __PUNCT__

we have some that show us up eight point __PUNCT__

thi on that came out todai_show us down nine __PUNCT__

i don't think anybodi ha a clue __PUNCT__

we find out thursdai night how thei do __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ do you think some of the commerci that have been on the air talk about your record have hurt __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ thei mai have __PUNCT__

i mean __PUNCT__ peopl in iowa have been bombard __PUNCT__

i mean __PUNCT__ bombard __PUNCT__

not onli on commerci __PUNCT__ but in the mail __PUNCT__ at a time when most peopl were kind of look forward to go out to the mailbox and pick up some nice christma_card __PUNCT__ instead thei were find out what a bum mike_huckabe is __PUNCT__

and i don't know what kind of effect it ha __PUNCT__

peopl of iowa __PUNCT__ i think __PUNCT__ like a posit campaign __PUNCT__

but the relentless attack __PUNCT__ and thei have been relentless __PUNCT__

and when you outspent __NUM__ __PUNCT__ to __PUNCT__ __NUM__ __PUNCT__ as i have been here in iowa __PUNCT__ you know __PUNCT__ i think it pretti amaz that i where i am __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but ha mitt_romnei said anyth that untru about you __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ how long do we have on the program todai __PUNCT__ he said mani thing that ar untru __PUNCT__

he said that i reduc methamphetamin sentenc in arkansa __PUNCT__

truth is i sign a bill in __NUM__ that doubl those sentenc __PUNCT__

we did not reduc them __PUNCT__

our sentenc were four time harsher than thei were in massachusett __PUNCT__

he said that i support special break for illeg_alien __PUNCT__

that not true __PUNCT__ tim __PUNCT__

we support simpli give children who had earn a scholarship the same __PUNCT__ it never happen __PUNCT__ it didn't make the legislatur __PUNCT__

he made alleg that our increas_spend by ridicul amount __PUNCT__ and the new york_time came back and defend that __PUNCT__ and said that just simpli not true __PUNCT__

and thei took him apart and show that the increas in spend were __PUNCT__ frankli __PUNCT__ the same if not a littl better than hi if you took into consider the account method we chang in arkansa __PUNCT__ veri modest gain in spend __PUNCT__

he made claim about thing like tax_increas __PUNCT__ but he fail to mention that some of those were either court_order or thei were vote on by the peopl and approv by the peopl for thing as road __PUNCT__

and i left my road in great shape __PUNCT__ took them from the worst in the countri to what trucker magazin said were the most improv __PUNCT__

he left hi road in a mess in massachusett __PUNCT__ with huge problem in the infrastructur __PUNCT__

he claim that he didn't rais_tax __PUNCT__ but __PUNCT__ in fact __PUNCT__ he did rais tax by half a billion_dollar __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ fee __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ fee __PUNCT__

it a tax __PUNCT__

if you a small_busi person and you pai more monei than you paid last year to the govern __PUNCT__ you can call it a fee __PUNCT__ call it a tax __PUNCT__ it a three letter_word that mean the same __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but you rais_tax __PUNCT__ and the cato_institut __PUNCT__ a conserv think tank __PUNCT__ gave you a d and an f for your tenureship as governor __PUNCT__

so there have been some legitim critic of you as a republican for rais_tax and for spend_monei __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ i don't think thei legitim critic when you improv educ for the children of your state or when you build highwai that give you econom_incent and capac that __PUNCT__ frankli __PUNCT__ creat the lowest unemploy number that our state had over had over a sustain period of time __PUNCT__

we saw more new job creat __PUNCT__

that what be a governor is about __PUNCT__

it about creat opportun for the peopl of your state __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ even if it mean rais_tax __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ in some case __PUNCT__ you know __PUNCT__ i cut __NUM__ tax __PUNCT__

peopl forget what we did do on a posit natur __PUNCT__ elimin the marriag penalti __PUNCT__ index the incom_tax for inflat so low __PUNCT__ incom_peopl weren't pai high_tax tax_rate __PUNCT__

so what we tri to do in tax_polici by doubl the child_care tax_credit and by rais the threshold at which peopl paid __PUNCT__ we untax a lot of the poor_peopl and gave them a shot at actual make it up the econom ladder __PUNCT__

now __PUNCT__ when we rais_tax __PUNCT__ it wa on of two thing __PUNCT__ either to meet an educ demand __PUNCT__ our school were deem by the court to be unconstitut __PUNCT__

in arkansa __PUNCT__ we been down the road of a governor defi the court and sai __PUNCT__ i not go to follow the court_order __PUNCT__

didn't turn out real well __PUNCT__

i wasn't go to be the second arkansa governor to do that __PUNCT__

in fact __PUNCT__ i proud of the fact that we rais teacher pai __PUNCT__ proud of the fact that __PUNCT__ in everi year we test kid __PUNCT__ we saw vast improv in their test_score __PUNCT__ thing were __PUNCT__ got better __PUNCT__ not wors __PUNCT__

and educ wa my ticket out of the __PUNCT__ out of the bottom of the econom spectrum __PUNCT__

educ is a kei for everi child __PUNCT__

and i want to make sure that if we go to spend more monei __PUNCT__ and the court said we have to __PUNCT__ then the next thing is __PUNCT__ let make sure we spend it well and we spend it wise __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ let me turn to foreign_polici __PUNCT__ specif pakistan __PUNCT__

do you believ that the govern of pakistan should postpon the elect in light of the assassin of benazir bhutto __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ i think that their decis to make __PUNCT__

clearli __PUNCT__ __DATE__ come so soon and __PUNCT__ after the assassin __PUNCT__ it mai be problemat for presid musharraf to __PUNCT__ to carri out the elect __PUNCT__

sharif ha said that he go to boycott the elect __PUNCT__ so there is some question how much mean and signific thei will have __PUNCT__

but i don't think it would be appropri for me to try to weigh in on whether or not thei ought to have the elect in their own countri __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ now __PUNCT__ the council on foreign_relat publish an articl that you had written __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ mm __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ and thi is what you advoc for pakistan __PUNCT__ rather than wait for the next strike __PUNCT__ i prefer to cut to the chase by go after al __PUNCT__ qaeda safe_haven in pakistan __PUNCT__

the threat of an attack on us is far graver than the risk __PUNCT__ than __PUNCT__ a quick and limit strike against al __PUNCT__ qaeda would bring extremist to power in pakistan __PUNCT__

how soon in your presid would you launch such a strike __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ it would depend on how soon we had fix a target __PUNCT__

back in __NUM__ tim __PUNCT__ we had soldier in a c __PUNCT__ __NUM__ __PUNCT__ parachut strap on their back __PUNCT__ readi to go in and take out osama_bin_laden __PUNCT__

thei believ that thei had found him __PUNCT__

and the strike wa call back at the last minut __PUNCT__ appar fear that if thei didn't have the permiss of the pakistani govern it would creat huge problem __PUNCT__

i think leav kei al __PUNCT__ qaeda leader is the most import problem we face_todai __PUNCT__

take those target out is critic __PUNCT__

on of the thing i want to point out about that articl __PUNCT__ i spoke about pakistan extens back in __DATE__ __PUNCT__ and a lot of peopl critic the articl __PUNCT__ sai __PUNCT__ you talk so much about pakistan __PUNCT__ and you didn't speak as much about iran __PUNCT__

you know __PUNCT__ a lot of peopl have critic my foreign_polici view __PUNCT__ but the fact is __PUNCT__ in light of what happen in the last week __PUNCT__ some of my comment on pakistan seem almost prophet __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but if __PUNCT__ in fact __PUNCT__ you went into pakistan in order to take out al __PUNCT__ qaeda __PUNCT__ couldn't you veri well destabil the musharraf regim and help the taliban take over pakistan __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ oh __PUNCT__ i __PUNCT__ i don't think it would be an effort to destabil the musharraf govern __PUNCT__

i think what we do have to recogn is we spent over __MONEY___billion in aid __PUNCT__ and the purpos of that aid in pakistan wa to fight_terror __PUNCT__

now __PUNCT__ as we kind of look at where that monei spent __PUNCT__ we realiz that not that much of it ha like gone to fight terror in pakistan __PUNCT__

a lot of it ha gone to their militari for reason that didn't have to do with __PUNCT__ with terror __PUNCT__

on of the thing that will happen __PUNCT__ i believ __PUNCT__ as a result of the week activ is a greater account for the monei __PUNCT__

it is in our best interest for there to be some stabil __PUNCT__

right now musharraf __PUNCT__ despit some of the concern we have about him __PUNCT__ repres at least some level of secur __PUNCT__ more so than if he were oust immedi __PUNCT__

and i don't think it in the unit_state __PUNCT__ best interest to try to get rid of him __PUNCT__

i think kayani now be in charg of the militari is a good_thing becaus __PUNCT__ clearli __PUNCT__ he stabl __PUNCT__ he ha a sterl reput both as a militari_command and as a person who is not so polit __PUNCT__ but i think will give an even hand to the militari __PUNCT__ which is someth pakistan ha need __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but __PUNCT__ governor __PUNCT__ you know how the man and woman on the street in pakistan would react to a u. __PUNCT__ intervent into their countri __PUNCT__

is it worth destabil gener musharraf in order to captur osama_bin_laden __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ i think the question is __PUNCT__ would it destabil him if we simpli went in __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ is it worth the risk __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ if it save american_live __PUNCT__ if it potenti take out al __PUNCT__ qaeda number on oper __PUNCT__ that a decis that a presid would have to make __PUNCT__

and if i were sit there as presid __PUNCT__ i would weigh all that inform __PUNCT__

but let me make sure that everybodi understand the number on job for the american_presid is to protect thi countri __PUNCT__ to do everi and anyth that it can do to make sure that we don't see skyscrap tumbl to the ground in major_citi like we did on __DATE__ __PUNCT__

whatev we must do to protect our sovereignti against those whose ideolog ar so extrem that thei would do someth so cowardli and so dastardli as to take thousand of innoc_live in that kind of terrorist action __PUNCT__ ye sir __PUNCT__ you better believ that i do anyth necessari __PUNCT__

i don't want to do it with disregard to what it might do in stabil of a nation __PUNCT__

but sometim you have to look at all the risk and weigh heavili __PUNCT__ but rememb that your most singl critic job is that of protect and preserv the american_peopl __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ after the assassin __PUNCT__ you made sever comment about pakistan __PUNCT__ us some inart word __PUNCT__ you got your geographi wrong __PUNCT__

the washington post wrote thi editori __PUNCT__

__PUNCT__ the assassin of benzair bhutto present u. __PUNCT__ presidenti_candid with a test __PUNCT__ could thei respond cogent and clearli to a sudden foreign_polici crisi __PUNCT__ republican mike_huckabe __PUNCT__ flunk abysm __PUNCT__

__PUNCT__ hi first statement seem realli uninform __PUNCT__ he appear not to know that mr __PUNCT__ musharraf had end __PUNCT__ martial_law __PUNCT__ two week_ago __PUNCT__

that wa better than hi next effort __PUNCT__ when he said an appropri u. __PUNCT__ respons would includ __PUNCT__ veri clear monitor of our border to make sure if there ani unusu activ of pakistani come into our countri __PUNCT__

the cynic of thi attempt to connect pakistan crisi with anti __PUNCT__ immigr sentiment wa compound by it astonish senseless __PUNCT__

clearli __PUNCT__ some of your word were in __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ what do thei realli think __PUNCT__ tim __PUNCT__ what did thei realli think in the editori __PUNCT__ russert __PUNCT__ pretti specif __PUNCT__

but let me ask you about it __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ yeah __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ __URL__ peopl your __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ i do want to respond to the specif of that __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ in thi context __PUNCT__

you were governor of arkansa __PUNCT__ you have no real foreign_polici experi __PUNCT__

give us a sens of __PUNCT__ of pakistan __PUNCT__

how would you describ that countri to me __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ it __NUM___million_peopl __PUNCT__ __NUM__ percent of them ar muslim __PUNCT__

it a countri that doe not have a long_histori of democraci __PUNCT__

it been a rel unstabl countri __PUNCT__ altern between militari_coup __PUNCT__

but __PUNCT__ but let me go back to some of these issu __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ primarili shiit or sunni __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ it __PUNCT__ it __PUNCT__ it primarili sunni __PUNCT__ and i think we need to recogn that what we have in __PUNCT__ in the event that have been describ in that editori __PUNCT__ first of all __PUNCT__ when thei sai that about the border __PUNCT__ that wa taken complet out of __PUNCT__ out of context __PUNCT__

what i wa speak wa how doe thi event in pakistan affect peopl in iowa __PUNCT__ and my point wa that a lot of peopl sai __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ thi is a terribl tragedi to have thi terribl act against an outstand and __PUNCT__ and veri charismat_leader __PUNCT__

but it doe affect us __PUNCT__

everyth in the world affect us here in the unit_state __PUNCT__

and what i wa try to point out wa that our lack of control of our border __PUNCT__ and i quot the denver post articl that had __NUM__ pakistani arrest __PUNCT__ we don't know how mani came __PUNCT__ that how mani we were __PUNCT__ we were catch __PUNCT__

i said it wa in a on __PUNCT__ year_period __PUNCT__ it wa in a four __PUNCT__ year period __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ and there were sever more other countri that had much larger number __PUNCT__ accord to our state_depart __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ but my point wasn't lost __PUNCT__

my point is that if you don't control your border __PUNCT__ then it not about peopl come across from mexico to pluck chicken and pick lettuc __PUNCT__

we talk about the potenti of a person who can come across thi border with a dirti bomb in hi suitcas __PUNCT__ somebodi who can come across our border who might be bring a shoulder __PUNCT__ fire missil __PUNCT__

and if we don't have better control of our border __PUNCT__ it doe affect the peopl in iowa and the rest of america __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ i want to get to immigr in a second __PUNCT__

but i want to go back to __PUNCT__ stai on foreign_polici for a second __PUNCT__

and __PUNCT__ again __PUNCT__ your articl in foreign_affair journal __PUNCT__ you wrote thi __PUNCT__ american_foreign_polici need to chang it tone and attitud __PUNCT__ open up __PUNCT__ and reach out __PUNCT__

the bush_administr arrog bunker mental ha been counterproduct at home and abroad __PUNCT__

give me an exampl of presid_bush arrog bunker mental __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ when donald_rumsfeld __PUNCT__ despit all the militari advic that said we need __NUM__ boot on the ground to be effect in bring stabil and order __PUNCT__ arbitrarili said we go to have __NUM___peopl there __PUNCT__

i think secretari gate ha done a much better job in __PUNCT__ in listen to member of congress and listen to __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but that wa the presid __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ __URL__ chief of staff __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ that not the secretari of defens __PUNCT__ that the presid __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ but it __PUNCT__ but i __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ you ask me for a specif __PUNCT__ and i give you on __PUNCT__

our administr __PUNCT__ led by secretari_rumsfeld __PUNCT__ wa veri specif in prescrib that we were go to have a light footprint __PUNCT__ we were go to put a limit number of troop on the ground __PUNCT__

and despit what the militari expert were give as advic __PUNCT__ and all the depart of defens model that spoke about what it would take to bring stabil __PUNCT__ we ignor those piec of militari advic __PUNCT__

we didn't take the advic from the peopl __PUNCT__ i like to sai __PUNCT__ with blood on their boot and medal on their chest __PUNCT__

we made decis that turn out to be the wrong on __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ that it __PUNCT__ arrog bunker mental __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ i think in time we have also given the world the impress that you either with us __NUM__ percent or you against us __NUM__ percent __PUNCT__

and __PUNCT__ and you can't quit deal with foreign_govern ani more than you can deal with anybodi __PUNCT__ in that sens __PUNCT__ in polit __PUNCT__

polit is about get as much as you can as often as you can __PUNCT__ but recogn that while you mai be against me on an issu todai __PUNCT__ you mai be with me on an issu tomorrow __PUNCT__

try to keep the bridg go __PUNCT__

try to keep road open as much as possibl __PUNCT__

and i do think that there have been time in which we have drawn a proverbi line in the sand and made it veri clear that it all or it noth __PUNCT__

and i think that what i speak of __PUNCT__

and it interest to me that while a few week_ago on thi program mitt_romnei wa veri critic of me for make that statement __PUNCT__ a few month_earlier on meet the __PUNCT__ rather __PUNCT__ on __PUNCT__ __NUM___minut __PUNCT__ he himself had talk about the major mistak that had been made by the administr __PUNCT__

he demand of me an apolog __PUNCT__ but he did not demand of himself an apolog for also be critic __PUNCT__ as have most republican __PUNCT__

now __PUNCT__ i think republican ar big enough and mayb wise enough that we can be in disagr with certain polici and still be behind our presid and behind thi administr in mani of the thing which thei have done right __PUNCT__

and i been veri complimentari of the presid on the issu where i think he been right __PUNCT__

i stood by him in the war __PUNCT__ i stood by him in the surg __PUNCT__

i wasn't a latecom like mitt_romnei wa to believ that the surg wa effect __PUNCT__

and we seen __NUM__ percent declin in civilian_death __PUNCT__ __NUM__ percent declin in militari casualti sinc the surg began __PUNCT__

it is work __PUNCT__

we ar final begin to see those sign of victori in iraq __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ you suggest that mitt_romnei not run an honor campaign __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ i been veri clear about it __PUNCT__

mitt romnei is run a veri desper and __PUNCT__ frankli __PUNCT__ a dishonest campaign __PUNCT__

he attack me __PUNCT__ and __PUNCT__ and yesterdai __PUNCT__ or fridai __PUNCT__ i guess it wa __PUNCT__ he launch then just a broadsid attack against senat_mccain __PUNCT__

now __PUNCT__ senat mccain and i ar rival for the presid __PUNCT__ but i said on mani occas __PUNCT__ i sai it again here todai __PUNCT__ senat mccain is an honor man __PUNCT__ and i believ he an honest man __PUNCT__

i believ he a man of convict __PUNCT__

and i felt like that __PUNCT__ when mitt_romnei went after the integr of john_mccain __PUNCT__ he step across a line __PUNCT__

john mccain a hero in thi countri __PUNCT__

he a hero to me __PUNCT__

and i just felt like that when mitt_romnei get on your show and sai that he had the nra endors when he didn't __PUNCT__ when he come on and sai he pro __PUNCT__ life and yet he sign a bill that give a __MONEY__ co __PUNCT__ pai for an elect abort in hi state health_care_plan __PUNCT__ when he claim that he realli for the second amend __PUNCT__ but he __PUNCT__ on thi show he talk about how he support limit and restrict on law __PUNCT__ law __PUNCT__ abid_citizen have gun_ownership right __PUNCT__ those ar not the mark of a person who pro __PUNCT__ life and pro __PUNCT__ second amend __PUNCT__

and then the thing where he made up these vision that he had of march with martin_luther_king and hi dad march with him __PUNCT__

you know __PUNCT__ tim __PUNCT__ what i said __PUNCT__ and i been pretti blunt about it __PUNCT__ if you aren't be honest in obtain a job __PUNCT__ can we trust you to be honest if you get the job __PUNCT__ russert __PUNCT__ let me ask you about immigr becaus it is your consist on that issu __PUNCT__ i think __PUNCT__ that is go to be talk about __PUNCT__

the debat in __DATE__ __PUNCT__ you were activ __PUNCT__ talk about ship __PUNCT__ send illeg_immigr home __PUNCT__ and you made thi impass plea __PUNCT__

let watch __PUNCT__

__PUNCT__ videotap __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ in all due respect __PUNCT__ we a better countri than to punish children for what their parent did __PUNCT__

we a better countri than that __PUNCT__

__PUNCT__ end videotap __PUNCT__ russert __PUNCT__ we a better countri than punish children for what their __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ mm __PUNCT__ hmm __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ parent did __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ i still believ that __PUNCT__ yeah __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but a week later __PUNCT__ after that comment __PUNCT__ you came out with thi __PUNCT__ the secur america plan __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ mm __PUNCT__ hmm __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ propos to provid all illeg immigr a __NUM__ __PUNCT__ dai window to regist with the bureau of citizenship __PUNCT__ immigr servic and leav the countri __PUNCT__

those who regist __PUNCT__ return to their home_countri will face no penalti if thei later appli __PUNCT__ those who do not return_home will be __PUNCT__ when caught __PUNCT__ bar from futur re __PUNCT__ entri for a period of __NUM___year __PUNCT__

children_born here ar american_citizen __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ mm __PUNCT__ hmm __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ and you were sai that __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ mm __PUNCT__ hmm __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ don't punish those kid __PUNCT__

a week later __PUNCT__ you said __PUNCT__ no __PUNCT__ no __PUNCT__ no __PUNCT__ send the parent home __PUNCT__ and what happen to the kid __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ thei go with their parent __PUNCT__

i mean __PUNCT__ i can't imagin a parent not take their children __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but thei american citizen __PUNCT__

why do thei have to leav the countri __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ becaus thei __PUNCT__ first __PUNCT__ befor thei american citizen __PUNCT__ thei the children of their parent __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but aren't we a __PUNCT__ better countri __PUNCT__ to quot someon __PUNCT__ than that __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ let me be veri clear __PUNCT__

i stand besid my statement __PUNCT__ but here what we have to do to fix the immigr_problem __PUNCT__

we got to seal our border __PUNCT__ someth our govern ha been dysfunct and fail to do __PUNCT__

it also veri clear the american_peopl ar not go to toler peopl who have gotten here illeg to get in the front of the line __PUNCT__

the onli wai thei can get into the back of the line is to go back to the point of origin __PUNCT__ to get behind that line __PUNCT__ and then modern that line so it shouldn't take eight year to process a piec of paper to get peopl the necessari paperwork to be abl to do that __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but __PUNCT__ governor __PUNCT__ thi is __PUNCT__ thi is import __PUNCT__ becaus thi is what you said back in __NUM__ __PUNCT__

__PUNCT__ respond to a question about illeg_alien __PUNCT__ huckabe said __PUNCT__ our economi would collaps __PUNCT__ without them __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ mm __PUNCT__ hmm __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ do you believ that __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ i think it would be veri __PUNCT__ veri difficult to do construct and agricultur without them __PUNCT__

that why we need a polici that put everyon in thi countri in a legal posit __PUNCT__

and __PUNCT__ tim __PUNCT__ let me __PUNCT__ let me go further __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but __PUNCT__ thi __PUNCT__ thi is __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ let me explain why __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ __URL__ becaus your plan sai send them all home __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ no __PUNCT__ i did not send them home __PUNCT__

thei will go home within __NUM__ __PUNCT__ dai window __PUNCT__ and then thei have the process of start to return __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but that __NUM___million_peopl __PUNCT__

you sai to do that would collaps the american_economi __PUNCT__ and now that exactli what you propos __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ no __PUNCT__ i don't think it would collaps the american economi if peopl went back and did their process of becom legal __PUNCT__

and all of them aren't go to go back on the same_dai __PUNCT__

there go to be a window of time __PUNCT__

how long it go to take for them to come back __PUNCT__ i don't know __PUNCT__

but part of the process __PUNCT__ the first process __PUNCT__ if you read my entir plan __PUNCT__ is seal the border __PUNCT__

seal the border __PUNCT__

if you don't do that __PUNCT__ then you don't have ani control of who here __PUNCT__ why thei here and what thei do __PUNCT__

thi process ha to be modern __PUNCT__

it our govern that been dysfunct __PUNCT__

tim __PUNCT__ i stand by mani of the state __PUNCT__ all of the statement i made __PUNCT__ and on of them ha been __PUNCT__ let thank god we live in a countri peopl ar try to break into __PUNCT__ not on thei try to break out of __PUNCT__

but let have a rule of law __PUNCT__

let make everyon live by it __PUNCT__

and let me tell you why i believ my plan is not onli a plan that respect the rule of law __PUNCT__ but i think it the most human plan __PUNCT__

becaus nobodi live in thi countri ought to live with hi head down __PUNCT__ ought to live in the shadow __PUNCT__ ought to live in fear __PUNCT__ ought to live everi dai look if there a polic_car or a border_patrol __PUNCT__ run and hide __PUNCT__

i want peopl to live in thi countri with their head up __PUNCT__

i want them to be abl to __PUNCT__ if thei go to work here __PUNCT__ to work legal __PUNCT__

i want them to be abl to pai the same tax __PUNCT__ live under the same law __PUNCT__ and also to be abl to have the kind of sens of liberti that thi countri is bound by __PUNCT__

that what we try to achiev __PUNCT__

let not forget that our feder_govern ha made a mess of thi __PUNCT__

as a governor __PUNCT__ i had to deal with their mess __PUNCT__ and i believ __PUNCT__ as presid __PUNCT__ on of the highest prioriti is to fix the problem __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ i want to talk about your past as a baptist_minist and your faith __PUNCT__

you talk about your faith be your life __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ mm __PUNCT__ hmm __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ you went to the late jerri_falwel liberti univers __PUNCT__ and were ask about your polit_success __PUNCT__ and you said __PUNCT__ there onli on explan for it __PUNCT__

it not a human on __PUNCT__ suggest divin intervent __PUNCT__

then __PUNCT__ here in iowa __PUNCT__ you have two ad ar on the air __PUNCT__

let just watch excerpt of both of those __PUNCT__

__PUNCT__ videotap __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ from ad __PUNCT__ faith doesn't just influenc me __PUNCT__ it realli defin me __PUNCT__

i don't have to wake up everi dai wonder __PUNCT__ what do i need to believ __PUNCT__ from ad __PUNCT__ at thi time of year __PUNCT__ sometim it nice to pull asid from all of that and just rememb that what realli matter is the celebr and the birth of christ __PUNCT__

__PUNCT__ end videotap __PUNCT__ russert __PUNCT__ and you __PUNCT__ you cut __PUNCT__ you take that speech __PUNCT__ governor __PUNCT__ suggest divin intervent on your half in a polit_campaign __PUNCT__ an ad where you describ yourself as a christian_leader __PUNCT__ an ad where mani thought a cross wa impos __PUNCT__ superimpos behind your __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ which it is wa not __PUNCT__ it wa a bookshelf __PUNCT__

i wish we were so smart __PUNCT__

i realli do __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ and then __PUNCT__ and then thi comment __PUNCT__

__PUNCT__ i hope we answer the alarm clock and take thi nation back for christ __PUNCT__

where doe __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ which wa __PUNCT__ by the wai __PUNCT__ that phrase wa on i think wa __NUM__ is that when it wa __PUNCT__ the __NUM___speech __PUNCT__ russert __PUNCT__ yeah __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ to the southern_baptist convent __PUNCT__

so it wa a speech made to a christian gather __PUNCT__ and __PUNCT__ and certainli that would be appropri to be said to a gather of southern baptist __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but where doe thi leav non __PUNCT__ christian __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ oh __PUNCT__ it leav them right in the middl of america __PUNCT__

i think the judeo __PUNCT__ christian background of thi countri is on that respect peopl not onli of faith __PUNCT__ but it respect peopl who don't have faith __PUNCT__

the __PUNCT__ the kei_issu of real faith is that it never can be forc on someon __PUNCT__

and never would i want to us the govern_institut to impos mine or anybodi els faith or to restrict __PUNCT__

i think the first amend __PUNCT__ tim __PUNCT__ is explicitli clear __PUNCT__

govern should be restrict __PUNCT__ not faith __PUNCT__ govern __PUNCT__

and govern restrict is on two front __PUNCT__ on __PUNCT__ it not to prefer on faith over anoth __PUNCT__ and the second __PUNCT__ it not to prohibit the practic of somebodi religion __PUNCT__ period __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ so you have no problem appoint atheist to your cabinet __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ no __PUNCT__ i wouldn't have ani problem at all appoint atheist __PUNCT__

i probabl had some work for me as governor __PUNCT__

you know __PUNCT__ i think you got to realiz if peopl want __PUNCT__ sai __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ you were a pastor __PUNCT__ but i wa a governor __NUM__ 1/2 year __PUNCT__

i have more execut experi run a govern __PUNCT__

i wa actual in a govern posit longer than i wa a pastor __PUNCT__

and if peopl want to know how i would blend these issu __PUNCT__ the best wai to look at it is how i serv as a governor __PUNCT__

i didn't ever propos a bill that we would remov the capitol dome of arkansa and replac it with a steepl __PUNCT__

you know __PUNCT__ we didn't do tent reviv on the ground of the capitol __PUNCT__

but my faith is import to me __PUNCT__

i try to be more descript of it __PUNCT__

i just don't want to run from it and act like it not import __PUNCT__

it drive my view on everyth from the environ to poverti to diseas to hunger __PUNCT__

issu __PUNCT__ frankli __PUNCT__ i think the republican need to take a greater leadership_role in __PUNCT__

and as a republican __PUNCT__ but as a christian __PUNCT__ i would want to make sure that we speak out on some of these issu that i think we been lack in as a parti and as __PUNCT__ as a nation __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ peggi noonan __PUNCT__ a woman of faith who write for the wall_street_journal __PUNCT__ said that sometim it appear your philosophi is __PUNCT__ thi is what god want __PUNCT__ and that doesn't encourag discuss __PUNCT__ it squelch it __PUNCT__

and __PUNCT__ and thi is what you wrote in your book __PUNCT__ kid who kill __PUNCT__ in __NUM__ __PUNCT__ it is now difficult to keep track of the vast arrai of publicli endors and institution support aberr __PUNCT__ from homosexu and pedophilia to sadomasoch and necrophilia __PUNCT__

why would you link homosexu with sadomasoch __PUNCT__ pedophilia and necrophilia __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ what i wa point out is all of these ar deviat from what ha been the tradit concept of sexual_behavior and men and women have children __PUNCT__ rais those children in the context of a __PUNCT__ of a tradit_marriag and famili __PUNCT__

and __PUNCT__ again __PUNCT__ taken out of the larger context of that book __PUNCT__ speak about how so mani of our social_institut have been broken down __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but do you think homosexu is equival to pedophilia __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ oh __PUNCT__ of cours not __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ __URL__ sadomasoch __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ no __PUNCT__ of cours not __PUNCT__

i didn't sai __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but thi is what concern peopl __PUNCT__

thi __PUNCT__ thi is what you did sai about homosexu __PUNCT__ i feel homosexu is an aberr __PUNCT__ unnatur and sin lifestyl __PUNCT__

that million of american __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ tim __PUNCT__ understand __PUNCT__ when a christian speak of sin __PUNCT__ a christian sai all of us ar sinner __PUNCT__

i a sinner __PUNCT__ everybodi a sinner __PUNCT__

what on sin is __PUNCT__ mean it miss the mark __PUNCT__

it miss the bull ey __PUNCT__ the perfect point __PUNCT__

i miss it everi dai __PUNCT__ we all do __PUNCT__

the perfect of god is seen in a marriag in which on man __PUNCT__ on woman live togeth as a coupl commit to each other as life partner __PUNCT__

now __PUNCT__ even marri_coupl don't do that perfectli __PUNCT__ so sin is not some act of equat peopl with be murder or rapist __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but when you sai aberr or unnatur __PUNCT__ do you believ you born gai or you choos to be gai __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ i don't know whether peopl ar born that wai __PUNCT__

peopl who ar gai sai that thei born that wai __PUNCT__

but on thing i know __PUNCT__ that the behavior on practic is a choic __PUNCT__

we mai have certain tendenc __PUNCT__ but how we behav and how we carri out our behavior __PUNCT__ but the import_issu that i want to address __PUNCT__ becaus i think when you bring up the faith question __PUNCT__ tim __PUNCT__ i been ask more about my faith than ani person run for presid __PUNCT__

i ok with that __PUNCT__

i hope i answer these question veri candidli and veri honestli __PUNCT__

i think it import for us to talk about it __PUNCT__

but the most import_thing is to find out __PUNCT__ doe our faith influenc our public_polici and how __PUNCT__ i never tri to rewrit scienc textbook __PUNCT__

i never tri to come out with some wai of impos a doctrinair christian perspect in a wai that is realli against the constitut __PUNCT__

i never done that __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but you said you would ban all abort __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ that not just becaus i a christian __PUNCT__ that becaus i an american __PUNCT__

our found_father said that we all creat_equal __PUNCT__

i think everi person ha intrins worth and valu __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but mani american believ that that would be __PUNCT__ that would be you impos your faith belief __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ but __PUNCT__ no __PUNCT__

it not a faith belief __PUNCT__

it deeper than that __PUNCT__

it a human belief __PUNCT__

it goe to the heart of who we ar as a civil __PUNCT__

if i believ that your intrins worth is not chang by your ancestri __PUNCT__ your last name __PUNCT__ by your iq __PUNCT__ by your abil or disabl __PUNCT__ if i valu your life and respect it with digniti and worth becaus it is human __PUNCT__ then that what draw me to the inescap conclus that i should be for the sanctiti of everi and each human_life __PUNCT__

that why we go after that __NUM__ __PUNCT__ year __PUNCT__ old boi in the wood of north_carolina when he lost __PUNCT__ not becaus he ha greater worth than someon els __PUNCT__ but becaus we believ he ha equal worth as everyon els __PUNCT__

i like it that in thi countri we treat each other __PUNCT__ at least we should __PUNCT__ with that sens of equal __PUNCT__

our found_father pen that in the declar of independ when thei declar __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ some american believ that life doe not begin at concept __PUNCT__ and that it __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ scientif i think that almost __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ a point that you couldn't argu __PUNCT__

how __PUNCT__ how could you sai that life doesn't begin at concept __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ right __PUNCT__

do you respect that view __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ __URL__ russert __PUNCT__ do you respect that view __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ i respect it as a view __PUNCT__ but i don't think it ha biolog credibl __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ and what would happen to doctor or women who particip in abort __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ it alwai the __PUNCT__ the point of try to sai __PUNCT__ ar you go to crimin it __PUNCT__ that not the issu __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ if it __PUNCT__ if it illeg __PUNCT__ it would be __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ it would be __PUNCT__

and i think you don't punish the woman __PUNCT__ first of all __PUNCT__ becaus it not about __PUNCT__ i consid her a victim __PUNCT__ not a __PUNCT__ not a crimin __PUNCT__

you would __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ but you would punish the doctor __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ i think if a doctor knowingli took the life of an unborn_child for monei __PUNCT__ and that why he wa do it __PUNCT__ yeah __PUNCT__ i think you would __PUNCT__ you would find some wai to sanction that doctor __PUNCT__

i don't know that you put him in prison __PUNCT__ but there someth to me untoward about a person who ha commit himself to heal peopl and to make_peopl aliv who would take monei to take an innoc_life and to make that life dead __PUNCT__

there someth that just doesn't ring true about the purpos of medic practic when the first rule of the hippocrat oath is __PUNCT__ first __PUNCT__ do no harm __PUNCT__

well __PUNCT__ if you take the life and suction out the piec of an unborn_child for no reason than it inconveni to the mother __PUNCT__ i don't think you live up to your hippocrat oath of do no harm __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ __DATE__ you told me you go to win iowa_caucus __PUNCT__

ar you __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ oh i hope so __PUNCT__ tim __PUNCT__ i realli do __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ no __PUNCT__ you said you were __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ well __PUNCT__ thursdai night i let you know __PUNCT__

but let me tell you thi __PUNCT__ we be outspent __NUM__ __PUNCT__ to __PUNCT__ __NUM__ here __PUNCT__

if we do __PUNCT__ you go to have a polit stori like you never had come out of iowa on fridai morn __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ would it be a miracl __PUNCT__ huckabe __PUNCT__ by my definit __PUNCT__ russert __PUNCT__ no __PUNCT__ i just teas __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ ye __PUNCT__ it would __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ governor huckabe __PUNCT__ thank __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ i on record __PUNCT__

ye __PUNCT__ it would __PUNCT__

russert __PUNCT__ thank for join us __PUNCT__

huckabe __PUNCT__ thank you __PUNCT__ tim __PUNCT__